Four Pacers Shine At All-Star Weekend - Tyrese Ties NBA Record

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A = Preston | B = Rahj

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What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of The Final Word, the number one pages podcast on the web. I'm your host, Preston.

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And I'm your cohost, Raj. We have another great show lined up for you guys today, but before we get to that, please make sure you share, like and subscribe to The Final Word. But most importantly, hit that bell icon if you're watching on YouTube, so you never miss a show. Plus, it will really help the the production of the show. So, Preston, allstar weekend is over. Indiana Pacers are going to have a game coming up on Thursday against the celtics, which they're probably going to get blasted in.

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But let's not think about that. Let's think about the good vibes we just had this past allstar weekend, we had four of our guys participating. Even though buddy Hill was not technically an All Star, he did get to participate in the three point contest, which was nice, but it all kicked off with The Rising Stars, and we had two of our guys, benedict matheran and Andrew Nimhar, compete in the challenge on Team pal with pal low Banchero band. I have a hard time saying his name. Palace Banchero Banchero.

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Anyways, that guy you know who he is from Orlando Magic. So we had two of our guys. So what did you think about what you saw from benedict matheran or just anybody on the team?

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Well, first, I just want to say this is one of the best All Star weekends we've had in a while because recently the ones in the past, I just got them. I was like, okay, especially last year in the Duncan test. It was just not good. But the All Star or the Rising Stars game was very, very good. I know. I see all of it. But parts I did see, I liked what I saw by both of our patient players. I liked what I saw from benedict matheran, even though he only had seven points. I like some of the things he did, and I didn't really see Andrew Nimhard but how many points he had.

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I don't know how many points Nimhart had, but I think matheran had like, 14 between both of the games. I think he just had seven in one of those games.

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Okay.

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But yeah, he had a good game. They got the win, which was nice. Honestly, when I saw the team the lineup with who was on there between paolo benedict and they had jaden ivy, scotty Barnes, keegan Murray, Jose alvarado and Andrew Nimhard, honestly, it just seemed like it was kind of unfair. For? Honestly, when I saw the fact that we had palo and benedict on the same team and jade and ivy, that's like three of the top six. I mean, you can say top five. I would say top five because that's how I view it. But yeah, up to top five or top six. Have you look at it on one team top five, six picks. Yeah. So I thought that was completely unfair advantage.

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I thought they were going to win and they did. So benedict showed out, he had a nice little step back three, shook a guy up. It was nice. drained it on him. Yeah, he was looking like a chant, looking like a professional. So, yeah, it's definitely good to have benedict on this team going forward. Hopefully next year. I mean, you never know, he could be an All Star next year. I don't know, maybe not.

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But I do think he will be an All Star eventually. I just don't know how long that's going to take. But yeah, it was good to see him play. And as far as Andrew Nimhard, what did you think about Andrew Nimhard? You think he did okay? Yeah, he did pretty good.

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I didn't really see anything extra special, but I think he did a pretty good job.

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Yeah, he was probably just good to be on the team. So sometimes during these allstar appearances and things and people are just happy just to be there. Yeah, some people want to show out. Some people just want to fit in where they get in, get in where they fit in. So he got in where he fit in, and it was nice. So, yep, Team Powell beat Team Joe Kim in the finals, or the last round, shall I say, of the rising stars, 25 to 20.

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So it was good. It was good. It was very entertaining. Inspired as the Skills challenge, though, my thoughts on that, to be quite honest. I don't know, it just seems like it's a filler event. It's not really something that I think people really want to see too much. For one, they had Team yanis or Team Anticompo Team on 10th of koompo and janice wasn't even able to play. And they had Drew Holiday step in with him and his other two brothers and that was embarrassing to watch, to be quite honest.

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I don't know, the skills challenge, I don't know. I don't know if they can do something different with that.

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I like the skills challenge last year. The skills challenge last year was good, but this year it was kind of mid.

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Yeah, it's just like, it's just this obstacle course challenge and I don't know, it wasn't as entertaining as I would have liked it to be. As far as when they were spotting up, shooting the shots from different parts of the court during that challenge, that was just embarrassing. It was just I don't know. For the NBA players, even though some of them aren't necessarily All Stars, but for NBA players to be admissing as many shots as they did and called themselves professional, it was kind of silly.

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They should be in the practice room a little bit more, practice gym a little bit more if they're going to be doing that.

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Yeah, it was pretty bad. So skills challenged, they might need to rework that. Now, the three point shootout contest, now, this was something I knew. I was actually happy because as you guys know, or maybe you didn't know, but we had two of our very own Pacers involved in the three point shootout, which I don't really know the last time we've had two people from the Pacers and a three point shootout, and they both did their thing. buddy Hill and ty reese made it to the finals in the first round. tyrese tied the NBA record for the number of points in a three point shootout contest at 31.

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If he just got one more point, he would have the record, which is nice for his first All Star appearance. But to tie the record and actually go to the finals for that contest, that's pretty darn cool.

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That's pretty good. And he made top three with buddy Hill. And I was like, oh, my goodness. And I really thought buddy Hill, right when buddy Hill shot first, he only had, like, 25, I believe. I was like, dang, Dame is about to beat this. And then Dame wasn't looking so hot until, like, towards the end, I was like, oh, no. And then Dame hit that last shot, and then it pushed him over. And then I was like, dang it.

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I was so sad.

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And then I was like, okay, well, tyrese isn't going to beat this. I thought maybe because he tied the record, but on his first two racks, I was like, oh, no, he's done. Because they were trying to give him excuse as well. He did shoot second and he was sitting for a while, but I don't know, I was just a little disappointed.

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But he only got 17 points, that last one.

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Yeah, it was only 17. But then the thing, the beat was only 25. So, I mean, it was a good three point contest, but the scores were lower. And then the first round of it, or whatever you would call it, for the last three people of the shootout, it was a little scores were a little lower.

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Yeah. And I was really hoping we won. I was like, oh, great. Two pacers in the final round. I was like, man, we got a 66% chance of taking home a victory for the Pacers for this. Right? And it didn't work out because when it comes down to it, you got Dame lillard, Dame bass.

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And then, I mean, you saw what he did in the All Star Game. So then I'm like, okay, well, that's definitely why he was shooting half court shots. I think he made, like, two of them and he just shot it so comfortably. I was like, how are you shooting this that comfortably? I mean, him and Jason tatum are going crazy on the shots. Yeah, I didn't like it because I want Team lebron to win because it would have been six and no for lebron.

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And then you had Donald and Mitchell trying to shoot threes again too. I was like, goodness.

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Before we get more into that, let's talk about the dunk contest. So the dunk contest was something that people thought you should just get rid of. Just X the dunk contest, get rid of it. They were trying to think of who can we get in here? They don't have to be NBA players. That's what they were thinking. And then somehow they revived the dunk contest this year. They had actually, to tell you the truth, all of the people who competed this year in the dunk contest would have easily won last year's dunk contest.

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And the funny thing about it is I don't really know any of these people either. I mean, I knew Kenyan Martin Jr. Because I knew Kenyan Martin who played in the NBA. And then also no, that was really it. I was only familiar with Kenyan Martin Jr. trey Murphy. The third was pretty good.

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I knew trey Murphy.

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Yeah, I wasn't familiar with him. jericho sims wasn't really familiar with him. His dunks weren't bad, but they were a little lackluster. He had this blonde look on his face the entire time. And if you're going to dunk, you got to like dunk him. Have someone have that look on your face. You know, that benedict matheran face, you know what I'm saying? That's a bonus face.

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Lebron face. Why are you name Pacers?

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Because this is a pacer station. Let me know a pace. I'm thinking about benedict matheran's face. So bonus is a face when he gets a good dunk, you know? Yeah. Even lance stevenson, you know, something like some excitement. jericho Sanders was the most blonde looking dunk face ever and I think honestly that translates to his dunk because his dunks are kind of a weak. He even did a trick dunk to where he supposedly put both of his forearms in the hoop. But then he actually put one into his hoop.

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Maybe they wouldn't see. If I just hurry up and put my other forearm in the hoop like it was already there, I was like, come on now people. But then somehow that got a high rating. So I don't know.

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He had one forearm and then one wrist and then he moved his forearm into there.

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Yeah, so that was pretty whack. jericho sims, wasn't he also the one.

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Who read a note that was so.

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Good, read a note that said 50, like give me a 50.

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And he couldn't even get it open.

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I didn't get it open.

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I think he was trying to open it while he was up there and then he was like, oh, this guy clipped it too hard. So he went down and he ripped.

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A note and then yeah, it was bad. It's like, come on, they ought to give you a 40 just because you said, give me a 50.

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Not even a 40.

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That was terrible. That's the best they can give.

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Which I don't know that yeah, I.

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Don'T really quite understand why they do that rating now these days. So everybody rates between 40 and 50. So if you have one to ten yeah, I know, that makes no sense.

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One to ten and then the most would get 50.

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Well, the thing about judges and you're going one to ten, I think it's because people don't want their emotions to get hurt or something. I don't know what it is, but it's like because then they used to.

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Give people like lower scores, and I'm.

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Pretty sure they used to do like one through one through ten or maybe it was like five through maybe they gave you like five through ten or something like that. But even so, you could score a 25 and somebody's going to score a 50 and that would be a much better telling of how good your dunk actually was. Because if somebody says, well, you can only score 40 as your lowest, I'm like, that means if everybody thinks a dunk is terrible, he gets a 40 out of 50.

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That's still a b. That's not a fail, that's a B. It's a solid B minus. Are you going to say, well, you can only dunk rate this guy as low as a B minus? You can't give him F. Like, seriously? Yeah, that's ridiculous. But either way, rating systems messed up. There's some other things that are messed up which you won't really get into, but yeah, Mac mcclung. I had no idea who Mac mcclung was.

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He's some random G league on a two way contract that came in looking 511, doing all this stuff, raising his head above the rim. I'm like, oh my goodness. And this guy was showing out and he was just doing crazy stuff, spinning around. He did like I think they were trying to figure out what it was because it wasn't a 360. It was more than that. They were like a 480 or something. Like a 360 and a half.

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He almost did a double 360. What's that? I don't know the math.

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A double 360?

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Yeah. I don't know.

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A double 360.

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He almost did it. He did a 360 and a half.

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It's not a 720.

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Yeah, 720. He almost did a 720. That was pretty incredible. I would think it's about it.

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I don't know if you can 720 that's like NBA Jam or something like that.

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He almost did it. That's why he only did a 360 and a half.

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No, I don't know about that. It is. Look at the clip. Look at the clip. No, we're not going to look at it right now.

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Well, not now, but I'm telling them.

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Well, I mean, I saw it. I think I saw all his dunks. But anyways, great is a great dunker. So I have to point out the elephant in the room. This guy is like the eminem of the dunk contest. Not a lot of them. He's definitely a rarity.

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The fact that he's white in 511.

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Yeah, that's so good. He's white. I mean, everybody knows these guys white, but it's like he's like the eminem of the dunk contest eminem. There's not a many like him, but he's, like, one of the best, or he was considered the best for a long time. So it's interesting whenever a white guy will come over to an area where most black people excel and then completely dominate. And the fact that he was short, if he was, like, six eight and he won the dunk contest okay, yeah, but he's six eight now. He's a short white guy.

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So very impressive. But besides the fact that he's white, if he was black, he would have won either way because his dunks were phenomenal. He was black. It did an entire goal. It didn't yeah, but anyways, I wouldn't really say that, considering who he beat, but anyways but yeah, he was very good. Black, white, whatever. He did an awesome job with that dunk contest. It was very impressive. If you guys have not seen that dunk contest, he's the best dunker since zach levine.

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And Aaron Gordon should have won the second one. Aaron gordon should have won. But yeah, Mac mcclung hands down number, like, if you had to, Ray. I definitely give zach levine and Aaron Gordon the nod, but Mac mcclung definitely right next to those guys and not even really that far under, to be quite honest.

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Not really. He's shorter than both of them, so that gives him extra credit.

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Yeah, exactly. Not that far under by any means. So that was very impressive. Hopefully Mac mcclung continues to compete, and hopefully they give this man a one way ticket to the NBA. Not no two way deal or nothing like that. And I'd be straight up honest. If he could come over here in the Pacers, I'd be happy to have him because we need all the love and publicity we can get. We could have the dunk contest champion for the next. Because I'll be honest with you guys, if they don't have somebody else compete as good as Mac mcclung, this man is going to win. If he keeps on competing, he's going to win multiple dunk contests.

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But, yeah, it was great to see. Great sight to watch. So the All Star Game itself, it was honestly disappointing. I really feel bad for the foundation that lebron's team was supporting because they only took home $50,000 while the foundation that janice's team was supporting took home $550,000.

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Lebron'S team didn't even try.

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They didn't try.

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And then lebron, he had to come in there in the second quarter. He's like, okay, we have to actually try. So he's blocking people and doing stuff. But then he got injured when I think he tried to block somebody and.

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Got in his finger, got caught in the rim or something that looked pretty nasty.

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Or maybe it was when he was doing a dunk or when he was something his finger got caught in.

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Yeah, his finger got caught in the rim. Look like it's going to possibly snap. So if lebron does not play for the next few games or weeks or whatever, he's out for the season. I completely understand because that did not look good. So he's completely got a pass in my eyes. But yeah, the game was just blocked. Now tyrese got a good 17 points. It was nice. He looked like he wanted to play. Like if tyrese wanted to if they wanted to play like a for real game. For real, he wanted to play because tyrese's game is built on passing and assisting.

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But if he's doing these sweet passes and assists and nobody's guarding anyway, it's just like, yeah, it takes the wind out of his pass.

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Everybody was trying to like tyree was doing all these different passes. I mean, they weren't as good as tyrese's, obviously, but he was adding a little pizzazz, like doing in between legs. But nobody was guarding, so it didn't look special anyways. Yeah, but if he did that with like full on defense, then if he did that, then I'll be like, oh, goodness. And he tried to throw some lobs to yogis, but yogis never dumped in the entire game.

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That was sad. yogis never dunked the whole game and the whole team was trying to get him to dunk. And then he was on a fast.

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Break and he laid it in.

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I was like, come on.

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Yeah. It was sincerely one of the laziest All Stars. Since they've changed this new system, which I thought for the most part was actually pretty good, to get the players to actually play better, having the four individual games, and then also having charities with money on the line. So you think maybe you'd care enough for this charity, but apparently they could care less about these charities they were looking for.

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And then they're like, oh, we're just.

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Here to have fun.

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But then at the same time, you can still have fun and play. Like, I have fun playing, like pick up basketball games, but that's not meaning I'm not trying, I'm sweating. But then that's still fun because basketball is just fun to me. And you're playing with other really good players, so you can still have fun with it and smile and stuff. I'm not saying you have to act like it's a championship game or anything, but put some effort into it because your charity only got $50. And that charity was looking sad after that game.

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They probably thought they were getting all the money like Team lebron. Oh, look who we got. Oh, my goodness. We about to get all the money.

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They tried. Team lebron actually had a good chance. They tried because all the points that they won by it was mostly just three pointers with Jason tatum and damien lillard chucking them up there. But if they play defense, I mean, Jason tatum is not really a sharp. Like, he's he can he can shoot, but he's not one of those guys who you're like, oh, that's a sharp shooter. I mean, maybe after the all star game, you're thinking that, but could have also just been a good night for him. But those guys, I mean, damian lillard would probably still be shooting us out, but if we put some extra double team Jason or something, whatever we could do.

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Personally, honestly, most people don't really hurt themselves playing hard defense. They generally hurt themselves trying to do something a little bit too acrobatic through the defense that's at the rim or something like that. That's usually when people hurt themselves at the rim when they're trying to do something really athletic over the defense. Now, that being said, if they wanted to take it a little easier there, I would have completely understood. But just playing some strong perimeter defense, they couldn't get them to do that.

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It was really terrible.

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And you have yokich and embed did I say his last name?

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Yokich. Yeah.

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And embed on the same team. That's twin towers. Why are they scoring on you? Like what? Why are they scoring on you? You have a powerful edge center that are both above seven foot. They're both probably like, 71. Why? They're beefy, too.

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Like, come on. Yeah, it didn't make any sense. It was really disgraceful. It was disgraceful. And I don't know what it's going to take I don't really know what it's going to take for them to get the all star game to actually be good again, or at least decent, because it wasn't even good the last few years. It's just been decent. Like, oh, it got better. Because they'd always say, oh, now you have to have the expectation of well, now near the end, since there's money on the line, and now near the end, since maybe there's a little bit of a reputation on the line, and now near the end, since maybe somebody could possibly try to be the MVP, maybe they'll play a little bit harder. No, they'll play a little bit harder. And they just kept them expecting them to play harder, and it never happened.

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The best defense that happened was Jason tatum on jaylen Brown. That was it.

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Honestly, in halftime, the coaches probably just like, honestly, I thought the coach is going to be like, all right, we're going to start trying a little bit more because we tied the first game and lost the second game. So we're trying to get our charity some money because also, think about this, they were helping their charity out, I think throughout the weekend or throughout some of the week. I'm pretty sure they were helping their charity out, like doing some other stuff, like helping and spending time with the charity, and then they go and then the charity is like, oh, now we get to see these guys play. We got great seats. And then they just get them only 50,000, which 50,000 is a good amount of money, but compared to 55 sorry, 550,000.

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So Team lebron got an average working man salary for their charity, and then Team yanis got a shoot half a year salary of a league minimum player or something like that.

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Yeah.

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Veterans minimum got half of that.

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Veteran'S minimum is like a million.

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Yeah, something over a million. Got them. Five hundred and fifty K. Half a million versus the average working man's salary.

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Half a million dollars versus that's just sad.

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Yeah, it was really pathetic.

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You think they care more?

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They didn't care at all.

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I mean, they were just there to have fun, and I like that they have fun, but like I said earlier, it doesn't mean you can't try little, because I know they all love to play the game of basketball, and that's.

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Why they keep on forgetting. It's like, I'm just here to have fun. This is why they kept on tying these little incentives on to you guys to get you guys to play a little bit harder. But like, hey, each game is an individual game. So now if you lose this individual game, you actually just lost a game. You didn't just lose a quarter, you lost a game. But they're like, you know what? In my mind, it was a quarter. And they just threw that out.

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And now it was by the end of the time for them to actually have a potential to actually win with the combined scores, they were so far behind, they cared even less. So it's like it was just kept on building on top of I mean.

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They got six points of like they were losing by, like, a good 20 or whatever. And they got to six points just because the shooters started bricking a little bit. And then we got lucky, but they really didn't even start playing any more defense. That was just straight up luck that we got back from that much. And then it looked like if somebody scored two, threes and we played defense, they're like, maybe at that point they're like, okay, we're six points away from winning this.

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Even though they're one point away, we can still do some good defense and get close. That's what I would think.

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So also, since Preston keeps on talking about this wii stuff, I mean, I know it's not the Pacers. He's referring to Team lebron. If you guys are a little confused.

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I'm thinking about like, in their perspective. If I was on the court, just.

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For me personally exactly. Didn't want anybody to be confused. Like the taste was playing the old.

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Fucking.

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He'S referring to Team lebron as the we. Okay, well, obviously I'm talking about the team that lost. Yeah. I don't know if we have anybody who's new to this or new to basketball just need to pretty much clarify this is exactly what we're talking about. Yes. But yeah, team lebron, shame on you guys. You guys just weren't thinking about this charity and it's really sad. You guys could at least said, okay, hey, we're going to at least try to get half of this money for our charity.

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We're going to at least try or we're going to at least try to win the last part of it. Because if they won the last part, they would have got 250k, you know, pretty darn good. Which had been pretty darn good, you know, so it would have it would have evened it out a little bit, and, you know, they'd have been happier. But they didn't they didn't try to win anything, but so they lost. All of you guys are a bunch of selfish, rich NBA players. That's what you guys are.

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They are so out of touch with reality that you can't understand that that amount of money for helping a charity is completely life changing to that charity. So shame on you guys. But anyways, Pacers are going to be back at it again against the celtics on Thursday. We'll see what happens. Hopefully Jason tatum and what's his face, what the mask? Batman.

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Batman.

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The guy had the mask. I couldn't think of his name again. I don't know guys. forgive me my brain, I know who jalen Brown is, but hopefully Jason tatum and jalen Brown decide to rest after having such an extensive All Star appearance and they just recuperate against the Pacers. Hopefully they're magically injured and hopefully somebody has a bruised thigh or a bruised pinky. Hopefully they have a mystical bruise die and bruised pinky, but they look complete. Hopefully they look completely healthy and in perfect shape, but hopefully they have a mythical bruised thigh and bruised dye ball or something.

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Well, they're out with a little bruised thighlyn. brown's face isn't getting any better.

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That's going to be it. That's another episode of the Final Word for you guys. So Preston, that being said, what is your final word?

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Mcclung.

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Mcclung.

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Oh yeah, because Mac mcclung was crazy like that. If he doesn't start getting minutes on the actual NBA team instead of being in the G League, I don't know what it would take because on the Rising Stars game, he was playing really good too. I mean, he was shooting like, I know he was not for his dunks and stuff, but he dunked in the Rising Stars game too.

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But he was shooting too.

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Shot two, threes, shot some good mid range shots. I was like, okay, this guy's pretty legit. So if we could get him on the Pacers good. He's very competent.

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Wouldn't mind having Matt mcclung over on the Pacers for sure. And as far as my final word, my final word is compete. Please compete. It's ridiculous. And another thing about that. I don't even feel like the most points scored in the All Star Game should even be that record should be from whenever the last point in time they actually played defense in the All Star Game to where they stop playing defense.

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Those records should just be frozen until they start playing defense again, because all they're doing is just parting the Red Sea every time and somebody's going up for a dunk. So that should not count towards most points scored in an All Star Game as the record, because they keep on parting the Red Sea. So you can dunk.

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I'm sure you got two big guys and they're like, oh, you want to dunk? Okay, let me take two steps back.

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It doesn't make any sense. That's just not fair to the players who, back in the day, had to play through actual defense because back in the day, they played like it was a legitimate NBA Finals game. If you guys remember those games from the early 2000s on the way back to whenever they were playing All Star games, they played those games like it was their reputation on the line, even though it was just an All Star game.

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There wasn't a trophy for the NBA Finals Championship, but they just had more stuff for themselves. We got all these little babies playing these, and I try to give them credit because they are good players.

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They're better than what they were before.

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They're better than what they were before. And the average player today, honestly, is better than the average player from the 80s. But that being said, their mindset is just not tough anymore.

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I don't know, because they're like, oh, I'm making, like, what, $30 million on my contract? I don't need to play that hard.

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Yeah, exactly. They're extremely business minded, and I can't really hate them for that. But it's just the fact that they've gotten paid all this money right now because Magic Johnson was the first player to get paid $1 million for a year. And now that's like a baseline salary.

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If you've been playing in the league and you're pretty good for 13 years, on your 13 year, you'd be getting like if you're a veteran, like we talked about before, that so of veteran salary.

0:31:16

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